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The future of Aviation - Round table
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well, we run to the polls, and so what we're doing is going to the market, and getting that. I think it's also important to signal the way that we have this big Talibanization, addressing that the way we think is wrong. We're looking for the part that tools the pathway to get into. Yeah, I think it's quite an exciting time actually in aviation to start on that path of decarbonization and whether or not we are going to see fixed wing hydrogen powered aircraft flying any time soon. I guess what you're doing here at hybrid vehicle is really leading the way to that combination. So we're really excited to be working alongside with your guys. That's right. So with the current generation technology, we can get that exciting. So the way to the iterations that we're taking forward from there are hydrogen aviation, hydrogen fuel, fuel cells, electric motors. and so each of those steps needs to be supported by the tools and the digital infrastructure that allows those those products to be developed, quickly implemented and in service. So it's going to be great to be working together through each of those iterations. And I think the some of the things that are in front of us are significant steps, whether it's developing the manufacturing techniques, the manufacturing plants to do things in all these things are significant steps where modeling reduces your development path for that and gets you to be more efficient more quickly. And being able to help a designer know how his his job today is impacting the sustainability of a part way downstream, whether it's being how something is being operated or maintained or even disposed of. But understanding that early having a tool allows you to understand that will be revolutionary. I think I'm guessing also the the tool itself is scalable. So bring it on your suppliers, your partners looking at infrastructures, whether you're growing globally as well as an organization that the tools that can really allowing you to to grow as as you do and and the requirements to deliver on your demands with a few preorders and everything else. So what's important with that also is allowing the customer to really look in the requirements from the requirements and broaden out the full project plan for the scope of these aircrafts. Along with that, we go in through the design, the simulation of these and then right from your bomb into your emblem for your manufacturing to district to really scale up. So it's very important to have a tool so that can really support the journey. But at a quick pace. The hybrid vehicles are wanting to launch these as soon as they can and the toolsets allowing them to actually go into end will actually do it in these capabilities. again, some of the some of the things that are in front of us, if we just utilize our existing experi tions, will end up not jumping to the most efficient, effective solution. So taking that experience, feeding that into a virtual twin, allowing us to experience this thing, whatever it is in the future and help us jump to a more efficient space quickly is going to that's the power for us. I think that's a great image you're putting there. The virtual twin is actually a window toward the future and to see what is the impact of what you are designing into the future, whether it's not only for the design, but for the manufacturing and as well for your operation or the more sustainable operations, including the full lifecycle. But I guess it's also some technology or some solutions that are exciting for the engineers and for the younger generation that will come on board in your your project, Right? Yeah, I think all of that's true. And I think that's particularly interesting how virtual training can help explore the choice to operate. But this is done in the context of something different, what's been done elsewhere in aviation. So exploring those differences, understanding those differences will really help us ensure that of course it's optimum. And I think it's also an ecosystem discussion whether you are going to put that virtual twin of your aircraft in light of discussions with authorities for certification, for example, we used a different vertical. And so airports you are going to operate ways and that's going to be really your connections between different virtual twins that are going to be interesting to see how that concept will unfold. Yeah. So the whole ecosystem to be to be built across, as you say, airports, operators, training organizations, maintenance organizations and being able to model and understand that ecosystem having. Variable, I think you touched there on the people element. I think that's important. You know, we as an industry need to attract the best people and we certainly do as a company, want to attract the best people. And the world's changing fast and the aerospace industry has been similar for a long time. So if we're not careful, the aerospace industry will get left behind and won't attract those people. So tools that let people see that we can be creative, we can be innovative, we can be sustainable overall, things are going to help us bring the right people in and say broadly to the industry. And very definitely we need to in our company. Yeah. meant. Okay, So I think what we're going to try and do is we're trying to take a, an NBC approach, a model based systems engineering approach here, trying to bring some of the new technologies, really doing an end to end process, bringing in all humans to reality, from virtual reality, giving a customer experience within these aircrafts. So we're trying to bring in all the latest technology of what we know to date with some traditional aircraft, but actually bringing some new approaches to the forefront of really trying to upscale what hybrid is trying to offer as part of their offering. So we like it looking to bring in all of these different types of methods and processes to to to introduce along with the the journey of building these aircrafts. And what do you think are the opportunities for bringing technologies like generative AI into that mix? I think is very interesting and we can use it for a multitude of different purposes. So so the build of the aircraft, it can actually we've seen evidence that it's actually improving the build of the aircraft's. Would we use in virtual reality, we're actually getting better customer experiences beforehand to actually change the design or change the layout of how things can actually look and feel. So the customers are actually seeing the product before actually physically receiving the product. So it's allowing design changes at the forefront of the technology before you're actually making inroads. So bringing some of this technology in is allowing us to work with companies like yourself to really, really improve some of the aspects of what we're trying to achieve or what you are trying to achieve for your customers to deliver. I'm looking forward to seeing some of those options that we might do. We might leverage use to leverage space like this. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yes, absolutely. And I think in terms to your point, in terms of generative VR, I mean, obviously we've been doing generative design for quite a number of years, more than 20 years now. You've varied the scale of the product. Of course, to have these shaped sold on stress or and certainly to have that 3D printing beautiful biological shapes. So we've been doing that for quite a long time. But I think what's changing with they are is the fact that we are we can do that now and skill at scale for primary design. We are at a stage now where we can do parametric design at the level of the preliminary design for an aircraft can be almost automatically generated, provided that you already have that data in a house that you've got already some of the systems design, some of the architectural design that you can should I imagine ways. So I think our role in the system is also to be able to provide you not only the nice artificial intelligence tools to work on your data patrimony, but as well to kind of gives you the opportunity to keep that IP for you and making sure that the tool is reserved to you in that it's working well. I think also the longevity of all of this, because we're talking about building of the aircraft, the manufacturing of the aircraft. We then look into in and again, some of the augmentative reality is, is allowing people around the world for you to share your actual work instructions or some of the servicing through VR technology within built in directly from your DMU of how these things can be service in operations as well. So lot of that technology we can look to bring in as part of this journey as well. Yeah, we are delighted to have reached the point where we've submitted the type certificate application for our land attack. Well, now it's a big milestone in the life of any aircraft. And this is the world's first hybrid aircraft that sent me the first application for anything like this around the world. Most of a journey, the end of one phase, lots of development to get us to this point. But the start of that journey now that's so relevant to the work that we're doing together in terms of now moving through to the point of certifying that aircraft to production and getting deliveries of scale going for this new technology. And I guess that means a lot of sweat from the engineering team, right? I think I think what I think they're more excited. So if you like, they've been preparing for interaction with the regulator so regulated. So it's our job to make the aircraft safe, it's regulators job to make sure that we do the right job to make it safe. So we spend a lot of time preparing for that. They're really looking forward to that challenge that the regulator will bring. And I think the regulators looking forward to such an exciting and large project. I mean, this is the first big set certification program the CAA will have led for whatever reason they 40 years. So what do you expect from us with regard to that certification process and how can we help you deliver on that objective? So I think what we need to do is to grow into all the things that that the 3D experience can offer in a controlled way that both works with our engineering team as it grows and works for the regulator as their understanding of how to do that certification and grows. And as long as we do that at the in the right steps, then we won't take a step too far and we'll have taken all the possible sort of ability out of the system to shorten that certification process. so try make is traditionally worked with the supply chain typically within Airbus or some some of the contracts from B.A., from them, the military side of things. What's very exciting for us, certainly here in the United Kingdom and England is we're seeing an innovative company such as hybrid vehicles. What we're trying to do is we're not just trying to supply the software and services for this. We're really building on partnerships You're on now our second partnership joint with Darcy Systems. We're really trying to bring the forefront of the technology, not just supplying it, but actually becoming part of the core team within half to actually enhance what we can achieve on the offering. So with some of our people, we've got industry experience along with the software. Hopefully we will deliver and we will drive that forward to to the timescales that hybrid vehicles really need to to meet type certification and then flying in the skies. I think from our perspective it's really helpful having having you in the, if you like, excuse me, describing it's in the middle but as a as a part of that, helping both us understand how to get the best out of the tool, helping Dasa understand our pressures and what speed we can assimilate different parts of helping of that growth heading towards the most efficient application of our resources over the time to make that certification process as quickly, as quick as possible. So try and make your the glue between the technology. And the. Challenges of the. Business. Absolutely. Absolutely. No, we are. We are. It is very it's very challenging. We have a lot of experience. But what's refreshing is that hybrid vehicles are coming with a lot of legacy knowledge. But actually we're bringing that legacy knowledge along with what we're offering from a partner perspective of what is new, what is the latest, how can we move things quicker, How can we get things done with your team and let you say, bring our experiences to what you already know? But actually some of the stuff which is coming along in the future to really enhance on that. That really fits the way we think about partnerships as well. I mean, we're bringing a new type of product to the market. This is different to the way we design aircraft for other parts of the aerospace world, and we're all about efficiency and design and we're all about efficiency in the time taken to get this to get this product to market. So partnerships really are the sort of the glue that allows that efficiency to be to be developed in something that is so new and so different to what we're all used to, perhaps from the bits of industry that we've learned from before. Absolutely. And again, we sort of thank you for for for allowing us to be part of that journey with you. We're very excited to be on board and can't wait to see these these aircraft flying in the sky and being part of the cool team, which you guys that that helped develop that. So within the next ten years, I can expect to be on the cruise 10,000 foot level right. Sustainable travel. I look forward to that. Yes. Travel without guilt. I think I was crazy. bringing the manufacture of any technology to life is amazing. The UK scaling up in a part of the work part of the country that's got great industrial heritage in North and South Yorkshire, so well connected to the rest of the UK and with so many skills and supply, good supply chain participants there, it's a brilliant place for us to build from. But what I'm really passionate, really excited about is this gives us an opportunity for the next generation of engineers, mechanics, technicians, maintainers, trainers in the UK to be part of the aerospace industry and to do that with that aircraft. The future. It's a phenomenally exciting market for century. Yeah, so we're talking earlier and I mean, I'm a classic. I was born almost flying paper airplanes, playing with airplanes, a little tiny boy because I saw airplanes and saw people making airplanes. And it's disappointing temporarily that the UK isn't doing very much of that to the whole aircraft level. I'm bringing that back individually is quite a powerful go. And what we find in Tom talked a bit about South Yorkshire, the area there, what we find when we go to South Yorkshire is that unbelievable passion for that area. And they, they have, they really, really want their children to have great jobs in South Yorkshire. I know it's infectious for us. They have that same passion, it's a slightly different passion and they want people to stay in South Yorkshire and they but the the. To Yes passion to do these jobs in the UK. So it's a it's a very nice it's a very nice feeling to be bringing that to you. I think it's also very important for us as as partners suppliers that we're part of that with you guys is, is is fantastic for us to get away from some of the traditional aircraft programs and come enjoying something so new, so innovative and being part of that journey. And again, it allows us as a business to support you, but secondly, also bring on the next lot of engineers within our team to to upskill with your team at the same time. So it's very, very, very exciting to be part of that. I've got to say, it's the scale of what we're doing here. I mean, sometimes it catches us. You know, we've we've been treated to some of the early imagery of what the production site is going to look at. And even among the team here, we've put those images out there. So. Wow. Okay. Yeah, that is that's what we're bringing to life here. That's a big, powerful program and an inspirational program. So for anybody that's involved in it. I'm certainly an ambitious program. But in Great Britain, great, again. Flying and certainly take people at the heritage aerospace industry, that's for sure. With our European partners. Yeah, I think that's a good.